This Cuban library lends DVDs about state torture

A government critic's collection includes Bibles, books by Cuban defectors, and positive biographies about Fidel Castro. THE ERNEST HEMINGWAY LIBRARY: That’s what Carlos Serpa, a government critic, calls his home library in Isla de la Juventud, Cuba. His collection includes Bibles, books by Cuban defectors, and positive biographies about Fidel Castro and “Che” Guevara.

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small world

What a coincidence! My library lends DVDs about my government's state torture too! Funny how much we have in common with fascist Cuba. Not "funny, ha-ha" though.

Small minded

If you want to compare what you considere US sponsored torture with the Castro regime you are are a simpleton.

It is ideas like that, and those of the crazy marxist librarian, and of course the ALA which refuses to acknowledge these brave Cubans as librarians that give all US librarians a bad name.

I seldom tell people I am a librarian, I'd rather tell them I am a serial killer.

I concede

You're right. We practice the "good" kind of torture.

And I'd like to thank you for not telling people you're a librarian.

There is no state sponsored torture...

There is no state sponsored torture in the United States.

Irrelevant semantic horse-hockey

There is or was state sponsored torture within jurisdictions subject to American law and it was permitted and perpetrated by American citizens. In particular, done by or sanctioned by members of the armed forces and government who had sworn to uphold and defend the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic. This means that they have gone forsworn and it makes them perjurers. This torture is/was also in violation of international laws of which the U.S. is a signatory, and makes them indictable for crimes against humanity.

Chief among these perjurers and criminals is George Bush Jr.

There is nothing that cannot be found offensive by someone, somewhere.

Brilliant

This has degraded into calling the President of the United States of America a criminal and a perjurer.

This is the type of stupidity that seems to have kept others with differing viewpoints away from LISNews of late.

Leftist Canadians are now experts on international law. If you say there could be indictments for crimes against humanity then why have there not been.

The sitting leader exemption is no longer in effect since the ICJ issued a warrant for the arrest of Omar al-Bashir, who is responsible for the deaths of 300,000

Radovan Karadzic has been arrested and charged with the death of thousands, and is held responsible for the imprisonment, rape and starvation of tens of thousands of Muslim Serbs.

These are indeed crimes against humanity.

The president has comitted no crimes against humanity, no crimes at all. You are a complete lunatic as far as I can tell.

Oh, of course: their crimes are crimes but "OUR" crimes are not

A war of aggression is a crime against humanity. Systematic torture or aiding and abetting the same is a crime against humanity.

And not only is Bush a perpetrator of crimes against humanity and a perjurer, but he is also a coke-head, a drunk, and a draft dodger.

And you are a good, little borg drone.

Good luck with that.

P.S.: Here's a clue: the crimes of others do not excuse, condone, or justify the crimes committed by Bush and the American government in any way, shape, or form. Bush is not any less a pepetrator of crimes against humanity just because he has not yet been indicted, or because you think other such criminals have higher body counts. And Saddam Hussein was an American puppet until he cut the strings and walked away from U.S. sponsorship of his brutatilty.

Rumsfeld's latest pronouncements have included a defence of the Pentagon's system of buying favourable news stories in Iraq with bribes - "non-traditional means to provide accurate information" was his fantasy description of this latest attempt to obscure the collapse of the American regime in Baghdad - and an attack on our reporting of the Abu Ghraib tortures. "Consider for a moment the vast quantity of column inches and hours of television devoted to the detainee abuse [sic] at Abu Ghraib. Compare that to the volume of coverage and condemnation associated with, say, the discovery of Saddam Hussein's mass graves, which were filled with hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis."

Let's expose this whopping lie. We were exposing Saddam's vile regime, especially his use of gas, as long ago as 1983. I was refused a visa to Iraq by Saddam's satraps for exposing their vile tortures at - Abu Ghraib. And what was Donald Rumsfeld doing? Visiting Baghdad, grovelling before Saddam, to whom he did not mention the murders and mass graves, which he knew about, and pleading with the Beast of Baghdad to reopen the US embassy in Iraq.
--Robert Fisk, Defeat is Victory, Death is Life, 27 Feb 2006

So America's one-time ally has been sentenced to death for war crimes he committed when he was Washington's best friend in the Arab world. America knew all about his atrocities and even supplied the gas - along with the British, of course - yet there we were yesterday declaring it to be, in the White House's words, another "great day for Iraq". That's what Tony Blair announced when Saddam Hussein was pulled from his hole in the ground on 13 December 2003. And now we're going to string him up,
and it's an other great day.

Of course, it couldn't happen to a better man. Nor a worse. It couldn't be a more just verdict - nor a more hypocritical one.
--Robert Fisk, This Was a Guilty Verdict on America as Well, 06 Nov 2006

Maybe I find this self-righteous, odious mea culpa all the more objectionable because the same miserable man was shouting abuse down a radio line to me in Baghdad a couple of years ago, condemning me for claiming that the U.S. was losing its war in Iraq and claiming that I was "a supporter of the maintenance of the Baathist regime." That lie, I might add, was particularly malicious as I was reporting Saddam's mass rapes and mass hangings at Abu Ghraib prison when Perle and his cohorts were silent about Saddam's wickedness and when their chum Donald Rumsfeld was cheerfully shaking the monster's hand in Baghdad in an attempt to reopen the U.S. embassy there.
--Robert Fisk, U.S. Tanks Will Roll out of Iraq on a Road Paved with Excuses, 14 Nov 2006

The sanctions that smothered Iraq for almost thirteen years have largely dropped from the story of our Middle East adventures. Our invasion of Iraq in March 2003 closed the page - or so we hoped - on our treatment of the Iraqi people before that date, removed the stigma attached to the imprisonment of an entire nation and their steady debilitation and death under the UN sanctions regime. When the Anglo-American occupiers settled into their palaces in Baghdad, they would blame the collapse of electrical power, water-pumping stations, factories and commercial life on Saddam Hussein. [Sanctions] were "ghosted" out of the story.
--Robert Fisk

And don't try to give me any of that propagansdist clap-trap about security or defending America. Only those who deny reality believe that lie.

Two news stories this week underscore the extreme irrationality and utter moral depravity of the Bush administration in exploiting the 9/11 attack to justify the invasion of Iraq. They both concern Pakistan, the close ally of the Taliban government when Afghanistan hosted Osama bin Laden and his al-Qaida terrorist network. And, as opposed to Iraq, Pakistan did have weapons of mass destruction and facilitated their proliferation to "rogue nations." Both examples provide damning evidence that Bush cared not a whit about WMD or about preventing another 9/11-style attack, because the danger of both existed in Pakistan, which he befriended, rather than in Iraq, which he invaded.
--Robert Scheer, Bush's Pakistan Paradox, 11 Jul 2007

There is nothing that cannot be found offensive by someone, somewhere.

crazy talk

To equate the US and its president to Hussein, or the president of the Sudan, or to somoene who ordered the killing of 8000 Muslims for ethnic purification is simply crazy talk, no matter how verbose you are.

To deny reality is schizophrenic

"Crazy" is to completely ignore facts in favour of bullshit.

A bloody-handed murderer is not any less bloody-handed for having been elected than if he had seized power in a coup d'etat. And your CIA gave Hussein the names and addresses of his political opponents. This is as well known as the fact that your government sold him the chemical precursors he needed to produce the weapons he used against the Iranian army, and that U.S. officers toured the battlfield afterward to assess the effectiveness of the chemical weapons attacks.

One of the principles of leadership is: You're in charge, it's your fault. Bush is in charge. It's his fault. Hussein did not order the U.S. military into this debacle. Bush did. Hussein did not do any of his killing himself, either. Just like Bush, he only ordered it done and then pretended that his hands were not covered with the blood of the victims.

One hundred fifty thousand needlessly dead under Bill Clinton, from programs initiated by Bush sr, and one million dead in a war of aggression launched by Bush jr.

Sure smells like crimes against humanity to me.

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More "crazy" talk

The nationalist not only does not disapprove of atrocities committed by his own side, but he has a remarkable capacity for not even hearing about them.
--George Orwell

War is Peace

Freedom is Slavery

Ignorance is Strength

For it is only reconciling contradictions that power can be retained indefinitely. In no other way could the ancient cycle be broken. If human equality is to be forever averted - if the High, as we have called them, are to keep their places permanently - then the prevailing mental condition must be controlled insanity.
--George Orwell, 1984

During times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
--George Orwell

Orthodoxy, of whatever color, seems to demand a lifeless, imitative style.
--George Orwell, Politics and the English Language

Political language--and with variations this is true of all political parties, from Conservatives to Anarchists--is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind.
--George Orwell, Politics and the English Language

There is nothing that cannot be found offensive by someone, somewhere.

Bit much calling it a library isn't it?

I have lots of books, journals etc, some I lent to friends, does that mean my bedroom is a Library?

Shouldn't the title be 'anti-castro cuban has books on cuban torture'?

bit much

Have the police come to your house to? I think you are missing the forest from the trees here.

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