Librarians Against Palin

September 26, 2008 - 4:40pm — mdoneil

Librarians Against Palin blog is apparently dead.

It lived from September 5th to the 12th. Apparently librarians are not against Palin as much as they thought they were. Or like any other thing librarians get up in arms about, it peters out after they lose intrest or something else shiny and new appears.

Perhaps they are all getting ready for banned books week, we all know how important that is.

Http://LibrariansForPalin.com is of course still going strong and still providing balance to the wild stories that are concocted about our next vice president.

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September 29, 2008 - 9:27pm — Auntie Nanuuq (not verified)

Librarians Against Palin

Palin's support of the Aerial slaughter of wolves should just say it all about her!

Shall we also look at her voting records on other environmental issues?

Sure, she's married to a "part" Native Alaskan (which part would that be I wonder), so that makes her more, ummmmmmmm, what?

I've been against Palin for years now, writing to my U.S. Senator & Congressman every chance I get about her less than ethical and non-existent environmental & wildlife protection policies.

Raspberries to Palin....who is actually a Great match for McCain!

September 29, 2008 - 10:54pm — mdoneil

Why would you...

Why would you write your Congressmen and Senators about a state official?

That is very odd.

September 30, 2008 - 10:50am — Chuck

losing interest

That reminds me: have you freed Cuba yet? Written any letters to the freedom fighters and whatnot? Did something shiny come along there too?

September 30, 2008 - 4:01pm — Anonymous (not verified)

Actually

Palin is such an eminence grise that she isnt worth the effort to pay attention to, expecially since there are many conservative pundits who are so embarassed by her that they are calling for her to step down from running as McCains vice president in order to prevent his campaign from cratering even further.

Again, Palin's record of calling for censorship of books was rather clear, and in the written minutes of the city commission even before she became mayor and had a seat on the commission. There were a number of books she mentioned at city commission meetings that she said had no place in a library. The media has pretty much proven that Palin openely expressed her position on keeping books on subjects she personally didnt approve of out of libraries and rather the need for "Librarians For Palin" to exist is more of a proof that she needs some organization to attempt to put out fires than there is a need to prove that she actually did the things she openly stated in a public forum, on the record where a government secretary was keeping a written record.

The fact that there were numberous stories in the local newspaper of the tiny town that she was first city commissioner in, and then mayor of, as well as recorded documentation of the city commission meetings in which she stated that certain books did not belong in the libraries, is more than enough to prove the issue of her position on censorship squarely as factual. The only thing she can prove is that she did not make a formal written request that these materials be removed, but there is ample evidence that she asserted that she didnt think they should be in the library.

September 30, 2008 - 4:24pm — StephenK

Okay

So you feel that there is no possibility ever for her to change her mind? That is extremely evil to say as it says that you cannot fathom the possibility of change or even redemption ever for a human being. Without either being possible, this is a pretty bleak existence that would increase pressure toward suicide.

To say what was said is fairly inhuman. Human beings cannot know the contents of the hearts of others. To convict for all eternity someone on something they felt at one time and in one place is a fairly arrogant act of expressing one's own perceived superiority bordering on perceiving oneself to be omnipotent is kinda troubling.
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September 30, 2008 - 8:00pm — mdoneil

If you say so

If you think that there are minutes of public meetings that show Gov Palin making comments about books being inappropriate for the Wasilla library before she was elected post a link.

Rumor and innuendo do not make something true.

Are there not books you feel inappropriate for the public library?

How about The Marketing of Evil: How Radicals, Elitists, and Pseudo-Experts Sell Us Corruption Disguised as Freedom or perhaps Alfie's Home, maybe The Turner Diaries? I bet you think those are all wonderful. Some people have challenged each of those for their anti-gay, racist, or anti-Semetic themes.

You, presumably a librarian, one of the self appointed guardians of intellectual freedom think someone who is not an elected official, not a librarian, but simply a parent and a member of the community should not be allowed to express an opinion on the appropriatness of a particular book for their community's library.

It seems you are all for freedom of thought and opinion when they are your thoughts and opinions.

Good going there Ace.

September 30, 2008 - 4:24pm — Anonymous (not verified)

Palin's discussions

About these books were not only verified by the prior mayor of the town, but another city commissioner, and Palins own campaign manager for her first run as mayor.

Along with this at the same time that Palin was reputedly pressuring the librarian to remove materials, her church was actively running a campaign to demand that bookstores remove the same items from their shelves and not offer them for sale. This too was reported in 1996 in the Wassila newspaper, and social conservative members of Palin's church were interviewed and openly stated that they did not beleive that even private businesses should be selling books they did not approve of.

If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck...

September 30, 2008 - 5:44pm — StephenK

Wookie Defense

Throwing out that things were verified does not negate what you said prior. Is Mrs. Palin stuck in her 1996 mind-set forever? Normal human beings would not discount the possibility of growth and change. To discount such is to ignore the world around you willfully.

So she challenged a book in 1996. She's not really affiliated with Assemblies of God now like she was then. On the religious spectrum, she actually moved a small amount leftward in leaving Assemblies of God. She's taken on more responsibility over time and now has five kids. In no small measure I would say her life has changed. Typically leaving one's denomination of many years for other pastures is borne out by the relevant literature in the religious realm as being a cataclysmic experience in one's own life.

If you want to bang the drum that discussing book challenges once means she will do that forever, I cannot stop you. As it is said that nobody knows if you are a dog on the Internet, I see nothing that shows me you are not an otherwise super-intelligent Siberian Husky. There might be mitigating details and circumstance otherwise but they don't fit the narrative so I will ignore them.

If that sounds silly, stop and reflect on what you're doing.
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